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[QUOTE="DrinkHardThrashHard:325230"]ArrowHead said:[QUOTE] That's bullshit. I agree that Tarja sucks, and I'd much rather hear Nightwish with a male vocalist or a much better female. However, as far as powermetal, the best vocalists to come out of the genre were NOT metal musicians. Michael Kiske from Helloween is into elvis and pop music. BOTH singers for Falconer came from musical theater. My favorite powermetal singer, Hansi, lists deep purple and Led Zeppelin as his two favorite bands on the Blind Guardian website. The new guy that does all the live singing for Savatage doesn't even like metal, he's into showtunes, and he's far better than the old guy, Zach Taylor, who came from a metal band.[/QUOTE] 1. I understand what you meant, and apologize for the one-sidedness of which that comment I made came across, however I NEVER said metal singers couldn't or shouldn't be fans of non-metal. Please quote me on saying that...I also never said Tarja had to have favorite bands that were 'metal'. I am into as much non-metal as metal myself! 2. Michael Kiske, Falconer's vocalist, Hansi, and the new singer for Savatage are NOT the best vocalists to come out of the genre. They will never hold a candle to Halford, Dickinson, and Tate, the most widely recognized vocalists in this area of metal (Kiske is simply a clone of Dickinson and Tate anyway, both Kai and Andi Deris are more unique vocalists with a better range, Kiske is only infamous because he was the singer on most popular two records), all of which played in hard rock/metal bands BEFORE their prospective big hitters! Also, Hansi and Michael Kiske were also fans of heavy metal in addition to the 'non-metal' you list. I love both of those singers, do not get me wrong, but there are so many who simply shred them to pieces: Ralph Scheepers, Henning Basse, Warrel Dane, both Angra vocalists, etc, etc. 3. You had me laughing with this one. The 'old guy' of Savatage was Jon Oliva, who Zach Taylor replaced for a few albums. Jon Oliva was always into showtunes, classic rock, and heavy metal! He also came back as their songwriter/lead singer after Zach left. 4. Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin may not be considered by YOU to be metal bands, but they are widely, far and large considered progenitors of the musical genre. Which is why so many metal bands cover their songs...but I figured that would speak for itself. 5. My point was that Tarja does not care much about the music Nightwish was making nor her career. She went incommunicado with her band for almost a YEAR. It's all in the letter from the band! I'm also going to drop a grenade here, but it's the sad damned truth: If Tarja had been unattractive or 350lbs, at least 33-50% less people would have listened to Nightwish. Same goes for Christina Scabbia or that bitch from Evanescence (whatever her name is). I am not saying this to be sexist, I am a firm believer in both genders in metal music and in fact some of my favorite metal musicians of all time include Dawn Crosby, Nicole Lee, Leather Leone, etc. It's a statement on the superficiality of most human beings (mainstream metal fans not excluded). If Tarja had been MALE, Nightwish would have likely been lost amidst the massive insurgence of late 90s Euro power-metal since I can name 30-40 bands off the top of my knot that absolutely destroy them anyway. 6. I completely agree with you that people with vocal skills outside metal can work well within metal, but the fact that most of them are ALSO fans of metal makes them that much more acute and proficient when it comes down to throwing down their vox.[/QUOTE]
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